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  • Oct. 1st, 2008 at 12:26 PM
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Edited to add: Thanks, everyone! I have it! Yay to you for helping an addlepated author!/tammy



I'm working on a short story, and I can't for the life of me remember if I ever gave Kitten's mother a name! Worse, I just messed up my central cast list, and the fact that I can't find anything that I imagine it may be means nothing--it could have just been erased! Do any of you remember if I named Kitten's mother, and if so, what I named her?

Go ahead and laugh. I don't mind. ;-)

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[info]morpheus0013 wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:32 pm (UTC)
Isn't she named when the dragons are arguing in "Realms of the Gods" about whether Daine kept Kitten against her will? I thought Kit's grandparents pointed out that Kit's mother was THEIR daughter, and named her in doing so...

I'm 2700 miles away from my books or I'd look it up for you. =P
[info]iamshadow wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:34 pm (UTC)
I've got my copy of Realm in my hands right now, just give me a moment...
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[info]reianaangel wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:35 pm (UTC)
Skysong, isn't it?
[info]ashke wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:38 pm (UTC)
This sounds right. I know Skysong is connected to Kitten somehow (I'm too away from my books at the moment).
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[info]reianaangel wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:38 pm (UTC)
Er, no, that's Kitten. Sigh.
[info]tiger_flame wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:39 pm (UTC)
*headdesks* I have WM less then two feet from me, but the others are half a continent away from me>
[info]zeraphita wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:40 pm (UTC)
As far as I remember, she was only ever referred to as "my daughter" or "Kitten's ma". At least when I just did a quick check on the szene of the Dragon council, there was no name.
[info]kalanthe wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:44 pm (UTC)
I just checked, too, and came up with nothing but familial references. Using italics for the dragontalk made it easy to skim. :> I also checked the scene in Wild Magic where Kitten's mother talks to Daine, just because. Didn't find anything.
[info]lyndagb wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:42 pm (UTC)
See you need some of your loyal fans to create an online encyclopedia of the Tortall world, like they did for Harry Potter - JKR says she's popped into internet cafes to check details online while writing...!

Didn't someone do a full timeline? Maybe it can be expanded... ;-)
[info]akadougal wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 05:45 pm (UTC)
There's the Tamora Pierce wiki - it's at http://tamorapierce.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page but it's not that detailed yet
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[info]pixelfish wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:45 pm (UTC)
I just moved so all my books are packed up. :(

But if it makes you feel better, you're not the only author to have forgotten their own canon. R.A.Salvatore told a story at Comic-con one year about how he forgot what a particular character who had been running amok through his series had in his bag of holding. He got all worried, thinking about the obsessive fans who would no doubt call him out on his mistakes, and then he thought, "Aha!" So he got on a message board, pretended to be just another fan, and started a thread about what was in So-and-so's magic bag.

Anyway, I can hardly keep my own stuff straight without my two fat notebooks of doom.
[info]tammypierce wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 08:33 pm (UTC)
See, I don't mind going straight to my fans and asking them outright. I know they have the details and sometimes my files have chunks missing. Even Tim doesn't keep track of the smaller details.

I think it's fun to bring fans into the work process, anyway. I certainly appreciate the help!
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[info]mnfiddledragon wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:45 pm (UTC)
But this is what fans are for!

But no, I can't remember. This is why I like to buy books and re-read them :)
[info]euphrosyna wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:50 pm (UTC)
Flamewing, I think?
[info]zaratyst wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:50 pm (UTC)
Flamewing sounds right.

Back in the dark ages of Usenet, Terry Pratchett had been posting sample chapters. His computer died and he had not backed up so had to ask fans to please send him what he'd posted, and got it all back that way, except for the very latest changes. :) Fans as information storage!
[info]roseredhoofbeat wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:52 pm (UTC)
Yes, it's Flamewing. =) I would LOOOOVE to do a Lexicon for the Tortall universe! I haven't got the slightest idea how to make it, but I'd be good at it! The only books I don't know by heart are the Aly books.
[info]chamois_shimi wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:58 pm (UTC)
Hmm, Google docs ... then lots of people could share and save and edit!
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[info]ladybrick wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:57 pm (UTC)
Clearly, someone needs to set up a TammyWiki.
[info]ubiquitous_girl wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 11:20 pm (UTC)
There's one here, it's a WIP: http://tamorapierce.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[info]blue_shadows9 wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 05:14 pm (UTC)
This is going to be an awesome short story, if it involves Flamewing.
[info]tammypierce wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 07:40 pm (UTC)
if it involves Flamewing.

Nope, but I think you'll find it awesome, all the same. I need to ask Gardner when the anthology's coming out.
[info]jedi_amara wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 05:56 pm (UTC)
Completely unrelated to this post, but I just came across this article on words being removed from the Collins dictionary and thought it sounded like the kind of thing you might be interested in. :)
[info]delynfirebrand wrote:
Oct. 2nd, 2008 07:17 pm (UTC)
Some of those words, I don't know how they can call them rare... for example, (at risk of sounding too geeky) a "periapt" is a common item in D&D manuals.
[info]mothehappycow wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 08:11 pm (UTC)
You really do have the coolest fans. Look at all of these posts of help! Dude. I hope someday I can have fans as cool as yours!
[info]museofspeed wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 09:22 pm (UTC)
I've always suspected that fans knew more about books than the writers themselves do. Writers have better things to do with their time than obsess over every little detail! That's the job of the fans!

I'm ashamed to say I don't even remember who Kitten is. It's been way too long since I reread your books. But there's so little time and so many other books I want to read! How did I used to have so much time to reread stuff? Because I know I used to do it all the time.

Oh right, it was before I discovered the internet.
[info]creatingalanna wrote:
Oct. 1st, 2008 11:06 pm (UTC)
no laughing - but some grinning :p
I can't help it - thats soemthing I would do and if soemone like you can do something like that

well then, that gives hope to the little people.
and yes :p in comparison I would view myself as a humble minion hehe
[info]disdainful_soul wrote:
Oct. 2nd, 2008 06:55 am (UTC)
I'm only working on my first novel (only four chapters to go) but even I can sympathise with forgetting names and things like that. I named a character who was only mentioned "Sophia" and then I had a sinking feeling that there was already a Sophia and I didn't want to confuse anybody.

So I brought up the handy search function on OpenOffice and what do you know? Not one, but two other Sophias than the one I had just named. So I had to hurry off and fix that.

Then sit back and wonder what it was about the name Sophia I apparently liked so much.
[info]chamalaeon wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 04:34 am (UTC)
Isn't Kitten's mother named Firesong? That's what I seem to remember.
[info]lady_rilwen wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2008 01:43 pm (UTC)
There is something really awesome about an author falling back on her fans for references in a pinch.
[info]tammypierce wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2008 02:04 pm (UTC)
There is something really awesome about an author falling back on her fans for references in a pinch.

I think it's great. I know I have that resource (and I'm deeply grateful for it); my fans can feel, rightly, that they take part in what I do, and the work is better for their involvement. Everybody wins!
[info]linkara wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2008 02:16 am (UTC)
Hey, Tammy! Long-time no post. Just wanted to let you know I sent you an e-mail that may have gotten filtered. It contains a little comic gift that I've recently completed. ^_^ Enjoy!
[info]tammypierce wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2008 02:01 pm (UTC)
Hey, Tammy! Long-time no post

No kidding--good to e you! I'll keep an eye out--my mail is kind of a mess!
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[info]kaetian wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2008 08:21 am (UTC)
Heya,
I've just been rereading all the Tortall books and in one of the Keladry books one of the convicts who kidnapped Lalasa was named Noll. Would he be any realtion to the Noll family of Terrier? Just curious. ;)
-Kate
[info]tammypierce wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2008 02:00 pm (UTC)
in one of the Keladry books one of the convicts who kidnapped Lalasa was named Noll. Would he be any realtion to the Noll family of Terrier?

Sometimes these things run in families. }8-D

And sometimes not! But yes, as I'm working on Beka's story, I am trying to have some names recur. Nice catch!
[info]germolene wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2008 09:30 am (UTC)
I was really late...Sorry.

I guess I should read my lj more often. I agree with the others about Flamewing being Kitten's mother. Funnily enough,in all of the hundreds of times I have read the Immortals quartet I missed that... :P

Good luck with the short story anyhow.

Your kitten icon is REALLY cute!
[info]tammypierce wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC)
Your kitten icon is REALLY cute!

That's Theodore. She's bigger now, and she is very spoiled!
(Anonymous) wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2008 07:45 pm (UTC)
Kitten's Ma
Her name is Flamewing. It's in Realms of the Gods.

Hope that helps!
[info]tammypierce wrote:
Oct. 7th, 2008 01:58 pm (UTC)
Re: Kitten's Ma
Yes, thanks!
[info]winglessspirit wrote:
Oct. 9th, 2008 06:00 am (UTC)
Hello!
Well, I never thought I'd actually get to leave a -note- for one of my most favorite Author's in forever! I just wanted to let you know what a huge, massive impact your books have had on my life. I've been reading them since I was a little, loner nerd in middle school. I was quickly addicted to the rich detail and the realism of the characters, mixed in this... epic fantasy world you've created.

Watching the characters change and develop got me thinking that maybe -I- could change too. And over the course of several years, I can say I'm a much stronger, happier individual- all things the the wonderful push of seeing so many amazingly strong women in your books.

Beyond that, they've been an undying inspiration- you're writing is everything I've always wanted my own to be. The depths, and color, and the way everything tingles the senses- not to mention the humor- has lead me to tentatively try my hand at writing as the years have gone passed.

I hope, some day, to publish my own story. Maybe it'll happen! We'll see.

I simply wanted to leave a little note and say 'thank you', your books have always brought a great amount of joy into late nights and (sometimes) early mornings.

Peace be with you,

-J.
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