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The New York Times has discovered a blogger who writes about and wears clothes that don't make her look like Snooki, Beyoncé, or Miley Cyrus. Leandra Medine wears clothes that aren't meant to draw the male eye. She wears clothes that don't look like they'll rip if she bends over, or flash va-jazzle if she crosses her legs.

And she points out that it takes a shallow kinda guy to be interested in you only for how tiny your clothes are. "Comfort" and "attractive" aren't mutually exclusive. What a radical idea!

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goldjadeocean
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:09 pm (UTC)
I love that idea. She has a really great way of explaining what she's doing.

Of course, I don't dress hideously on purpose--it just kind of happens. I have a terrible colour sense which I admit to largely because the Gods hate perfection and everybody needs at least one flaw. :P
tammy212
Dec. 17th, 2010 11:55 pm (UTC)
I think it it so wonderful for you to celebrate the gods this way! ;-)
lizziey
Dec. 18th, 2010 01:57 am (UTC)
I dress rather hideously because, well, I am VERY VERY oddly shaped and they just don't MAKE clothing that fits my shape well. -_-
stephaniesmom
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:22 pm (UTC)
Amazing!
tammy212
Dec. 17th, 2010 11:56 pm (UTC)
Is this your way of saying "Bless your heart," dear? 8-D
stephaniesmom
Dec. 18th, 2010 02:56 am (UTC)
Haha, no. I was actually impressed by the article!
mundungus42
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:25 pm (UTC)
My favorite caption is "Shoes by Christian Loubouton My Little Pony." HEEE!!!
redstapler
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:26 pm (UTC)
I'm interested in your commentary here.

I've had two men on my flist post about this, and their response has been, essentially, "Men aren't looking at your clothes. Even if they were, what you've got there isn't doing what you think it's doing. If someone is going to harass/assault/rape you, they're going to do it no matter what."
radiotrash
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:43 pm (UTC)
I took a peek at her blog and was wondering if the whole thing is actually satirical? Cause I'm not sure how wearing a bustier isn't going to draw attention, even if you layer it under an open button up shirt and pair it with a pair of work pants.
kosarin
Dec. 17th, 2010 10:18 pm (UTC)
I don't think the goal is to "not draw the male eye" so much as wearing clothing that fashionistas and many women enjoy, but that aren't necessarily flattering. I think it's explained pretty well in the article: "“I think men like things tight and simple,” she said. “It’s not even about slutty, tiny dresses from Bebe because that’s not very becoming of a woman either. But to guys, harem pants don’t exactly shape the body, shoulder pads are unusual because you look like a linebacker and sequins are a cry for attention.”

It definitely doesn't seem to be about comfort. :D More about being fabulous even if it makes you look ridiculous.
tammy212
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:05 am (UTC)
If someone is going to harass/assault/rape you, they're going to do it no matter what."

This is absolutely true.

But some kinds of harassment? Have you ever gone out in teeny clothing that you love to wear because it makes you feel attractive, only to have every yobbo in sight and a few in cars who weren't in sight until a few moments ago call out remarks? Or worse, in my view, have you seen a few women bunch up, cross their arms over their chests, and mutter to each other while shooting daggers at you with their eyes?

I actually didn't post this because I thought unattractive or clothing that covers will prevent verbal or physical attack. I thought it was very cool that here was a blogger, and some designers, who had kicked over the traces of short, form-fitting, clingy, sheer, shoulder and cleavage baring, to go for easy, comfortable, adaptable, and hardy. (I'm gonna re-post this above.)

You can be 80 and 300 pounds and still be raped. You can be an infant in a diaper and still be assaulted and raped. Rape isn't about sexual attraction. You could be in a space suit and a rapist would be on you if he was in a mood to rape. It's never about your clothes, though so many people lie and claim it is. It's about power and humiliation through our most vulnerable spots, the spots that will never really be the same after. By raping someone, the rapist insures the one he raped will never, ever forget him. Clothes are just something that gets in the way.

ks_claw
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:30 pm (UTC)
and I thought people into practical clothes were a dying breed x_X
katarzi
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:32 pm (UTC)
But none of what she has is practical...
ks_claw
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:33 pm (UTC)
True, but some of it *does* look warmer than what I've seen some people at my school wear.
katarzi
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:38 pm (UTC)
Considering the frat girl clothes at my uni are sweatpants, North Face jackets and big snow boots, I'm pretty sure they win. haha.
radiotrash
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:36 pm (UTC)
Nor is it affordable to the everywoman. $600 shoes, ouch.
tammy212
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:07 am (UTC)
I thought people into practical clothes were a dying breed

Oh, no. We are very much alive and well!
funwithrage
Dec. 17th, 2010 07:46 pm (UTC)
Cute!

That said, I wish she hadn't used "slutty" in her interview. Her stuff is great, but women who *do* like it cut short-and-tight are fine people too, and I wish the media didn't keep setting up a dichotomy.
kayden_eidyak
Dec. 17th, 2010 08:05 pm (UTC)
Agreed.
kosarin
Dec. 17th, 2010 10:18 pm (UTC)
I agree too! I don't really think that was the point she was making, but the article did make it seem that way.
tammy212
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:09 am (UTC)
I wish she hadn't used "slutty" in her interview.

I do, too. I was going to do my once-in-a-while "I don't like the s-word, b-word, c-word, w-word" post today, but found a couple more current things. Prolly this weekend I'll get to my "no-girl-bashing-words around me, please" post.
funwithrage
Dec. 18th, 2010 01:56 am (UTC)
I will look forward to it eagerly!
votemarvel
Dec. 17th, 2010 08:27 pm (UTC)
As long as you are happy with yourself then a guy is going to notice you no matter what you are wearing.
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isilwenn
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:39 am (UTC)
Heck yes. I'm firmly of the opinion that no one can tell me what to do with, or put on my body. Not the religious conservatives or well meaning feminists.
camlina
Dec. 18th, 2010 03:22 pm (UTC)
YES, exactly. Dressing specifically to avoid male attention is almost bad as dressing specifically to attract male attention.
dewline
Dec. 17th, 2010 08:37 pm (UTC)
I am never going to look like any of Those People, Tammy. Practical and comfy...what I have to live for.
tammy212
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:10 am (UTC)
Practical and comfy...what I have to live for.

Which is one of the sustaining threads among my friends, Dwight!
kaleidomusings
Dec. 17th, 2010 08:58 pm (UTC)
She has a great fashion sense. I especially like the coat and boots that model is wearing in the third picture.

Although I understand that some women enjoy -even prefer- wearing clothes that hardly cover anything, that attracts unwanted attention more than not. If one dresses modestly, but still in an attractive way, a respectable man will take notice, which is much more important. But perhaps a lot of it has to do with a woman's confidence and self-worth too...?
tammy212
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:12 am (UTC)
some women enjoy -even prefer- wearing clothes that hardly cover anything,

I think women should wear whatever they like, skimpy or hijab, as long as it's that woman's personal choice. I liked the article because I like comfortable clothes, and I get kinda tired of fashion's emphasis on clothes that are tight, short, and revealing. It's good to see someone design for those of us who like comfortable clothes with a bit of dash.
fishness
Dec. 18th, 2010 01:45 am (UTC)
No. It has nothing necessarily to do with self-worth. Some women LIKE to wear short, tight clothes. Some women LIKE how it fits and feel that that's more comfortable. Not every woman who dresses "like a slut" has low self-confidence or self-worth. Sometimes that IS what's comfortable and it's not just to get laid.
funwithrage
Dec. 18th, 2010 01:55 am (UTC)
This.

And if it *is* to get laid, that's fine too--nothing wrong with knowing what you want and going after that, whether that's sex or comfort or both.
kosarin
Dec. 18th, 2010 04:18 am (UTC)
And if you're not looking for a respectable man today? ;D
succubus_esq
Dec. 18th, 2010 09:07 am (UTC)
I wear tight tops and short skirts to attract women to look at my body. Silly me, I guess I'm doing this lesbian thing all wrong!
hwin
Dec. 17th, 2010 09:03 pm (UTC)
Ironically, there are several revealing pictures in her blog. Some of her in (seemingly) some rather skimpy pieces of printer paper, and one of her in a bustier and granny panties... I don't get it.
selene
Dec. 17th, 2010 09:13 pm (UTC)
Can't say that I get it either. I'm digging that trench vest though.

Not really sure what feathery sleeves have to do with anything either. A good lot of that stuff I'd never touch because it's just too much.
tammy212
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:12 am (UTC)
I don't get it.

We all have many faces when we're talking about clothes?
kosarin
Dec. 17th, 2010 10:24 pm (UTC)
Interesting find! It doesn't seem to be about comfort though, so much as wearing what you want whether it attracts guys or not - and what she wants to wear doesn't seem to have much to do with being comfortable! I thought this quote was most illuminating: “She is relating fashion to feminism. She is saying women dress for themselves.” This isn't a rebellion against people who dress in skimpy clothing, it is pointing out that plenty of women already wear clothes that guys aren't really into (her examples being excess fringe, sequins, harem pants, intense shoulder pads... All stuff that have been in fashion recently) and wouldn't it be sad if they always did?
lyssabits
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:01 am (UTC)
Eh.. I find the message of this article very strange. It's definitely not about comfort, as you say. And it's not about dressing in clothing that isn't super sexy and "Snooki-esque" as Ms Pierce seems to be saying.. as near as I can tell, the blogger in question simply decided to write about wearing WEIRD clothes. And is that actually so weird? High fashion looks are almost never about attracting guys in the first place, they've always been about pushing the boundaries of societal norms.. which almost by definition means you're going to turn off a lot of people, guys or girls. So I'm not sure this is a particularly revolutionary stance.
tammy212
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:20 am (UTC)
the blogger in question simply decided to write about wearing WEIRD clothes

I think she's writing about dressing to please yourself and to have fun, not to always worry about how others will react. She thinks we should experiment and force others not to look at our clothes, but our minds.

As for high fashion: it's made itself obsolete compared to regular clothes. Watered way down it becomes spring and fall collections, but by then it's no longer about outraging sensibility and breaking the boundaries of haut couture, but about pleasing a bunch of male and female buyers for customers who want to attract persons of the opposite sex.

I never claimed she was revolutionary, but she is saying something not often found in the fashion pages, and certainly not found in the NY Times.
tammy212
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:15 am (UTC)
I certainly prefer to dress for myself--the standards I keep for proper dress for proper places, particularly if I can do that and still be comfortable. I grew up in the last fringe of a time when every item of dress was referred back to a man's taste, and that always put me into clothes that made me look bad. I like it when women dress for themselves. If microminis make women comfortable and happy, okay. I just know my butt was always cold (back in the day). ;-)
kittylady
Dec. 18th, 2010 01:10 am (UTC)
"Va-jazzle" is my new favorite word. Thank you.
paula_of_conte
Dec. 18th, 2010 04:01 pm (UTC)
yes! I totally agree with this. When I was younger and saw all these girls dressing like that my parents explained it to me about the natural reaction boys have to that and "don't advertise if it ain't on the menu" - I always wanted to be respected and a friend to the one I was with - not some kind of sexual object. And I do believe it was sound advice - my boyfriend is awesome and I didn't have to wear revealing clothes for him to like me :)
live_momma
Dec. 18th, 2010 08:06 pm (UTC)
You should check out the Wardrobe Refashion blog. It's all about taking ugly &/or ill-fitting clothes and making something lovely, practical, or useful out of it.

http://nikkishell.typepad.com/wardroberefashion/
lovefromgirl
Dec. 19th, 2010 05:22 am (UTC)
The Man Repeller! I love her! Oh, my goodness, she is hilarious in pointing out all of the ridiculous things about ~high fashion~ today. :)
firedawn
Dec. 20th, 2010 07:41 am (UTC)
Even reading your post depresses me. I feel like this post shouldn't have to be mad. Fashion is NOT what Snooki, Beyonce, or Miley wear. That is not fashion. High fashion actually has you know, class standards. You don't just throw on a tiny dress showing as much skin as possible and call it fashion. Sadly, what Americans call fashion nowadays is not representative of what fashionistas everywhere & fashion bloggers and designers actually are like.
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