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It's this or bang my head on my desk

I remember the days when CNN was a reputable news organization. As of this bit of newsiness, I wouldn't believe a CNN report unless it was backed up by five other news organizations, including Disney Adventures magazine.

Here's the pull-quotes from DKos's story if you don't want to follow the link:

CNN anchor Don Lemon and Decoded host Brad Meltzer bandied about the idea Sunday afternoon that something “beyond our understanding” happened to Malaysia Airlines flight MH 370, that “something” being perhaps supernatural maybe?

“Especially today, on a day when we deal with the supernatural,” Lemon said. “We go to church, the supernatural power of God…people are saying to me, why aren’t you talking about the possibility — and I’m just putting it out there — that something odd happened to this plane, something beyond our understanding?”

Maybe I'll go bang my head anyway.

edited to add:

Oh, yeah. YHWH centrist, much, to accuse that God of kidnapping a flight with a majority of Chinese (mix of faiths) and Malaysian (most likely Muslim) passengers?


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Mar. 18th, 2014 09:09 pm (UTC)
Well gosh. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Did he actually just suggest that God stole a plain?
Mar. 18th, 2014 09:17 pm (UTC)
Yep. Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, missing anywhere between Central Asia and the Indian Ocean, originally en route from Malasia to Beijing when it went off the radar.
Mar. 18th, 2014 09:22 pm (UTC)
It's all over the news here (the UK) too. I'm glad to say that none of the other news outlets I've heard so far have stooped so far as to suggest a supernatural cause.
I know lack of hard facts make journalists reach for wild theories, but that takes the biscuit :/
Mar. 18th, 2014 10:45 pm (UTC)
And a thrice-baked biscuit, hard to bite and harder to chew, it is. Just *think* of what it will do to the digestion!
Mar. 18th, 2014 09:22 pm (UTC)
Wow. Seriously? I mean, sure, taken by aliens or somesuch is a fun bit of dingbattery for armchair discussions, but from a supposedly reputable news source, I expect better than blaming the supernatural.

Though this does put in mind of Captain Kirk. "Excuse me. What does God need with a starship?"
Mar. 18th, 2014 09:23 pm (UTC)
All ridiculousness aside, I kind of like that he called God "supernatural". You usually don't see that word in a context towards anything shy of ghost sightings or the occult.
Mar. 19th, 2014 01:36 pm (UTC)
Maybe the rockbottom Christians will come after them for the disrespect now. I can hope.
Mar. 18th, 2014 09:53 pm (UTC)
That's not news, that's something you chat about with your friends. How is that "journalism" even by the loosest definition?

And, also, last time I checked, "God" was not responsible for aliens and/or the Bermuda Triangle, which is what he seems to be talking about.
Mar. 18th, 2014 10:31 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry, I'mma gonna need ta bang my head on the desk anyway.
Mar. 18th, 2014 10:45 pm (UTC)
Amen, Sister.
Mar. 18th, 2014 10:34 pm (UTC)
... God stole an airplane. Wooow. What happened to the good ol' Bermuda Trinagle on y'know-- conspiracy theorist sites, not CNN?
Mar. 19th, 2014 01:36 am (UTC)
Conspiracy Network News is now backtracking and trying to claim that there is new data from Thailand and China saying that the plane was redirected elsewhere...which is possible, but it's coming from people who said that God stole an airplane. How am I supposed to believe anything the station says after that?
Mar. 19th, 2014 01:31 pm (UTC)
"How am I supposed to believe anything the station says after that?"

I won't.

There's a new theory that the plane snuck up behind another plane and flew so close that it seemed like one plane on radar and satellite. Because the pilot must have flown with the Blue Angels or a similar outfit. I know you can do it to refuel, but for *hours*?

We are pilgrims in an unholy land, as Dr. Henry Jones Senior, father of Indiana, would say.

Edited at 2014-03-19 01:32 pm (UTC)
Mar. 19th, 2014 07:05 pm (UTC)
Actually, the radar thing isn't as far-fetched as it sounds.

Most air traffic is tracked by "secondary radar" which isn't actually radar at all - it's a radio beam that triggers the transponders on the planes (transponder meaning "transmission responder"), which in turn transmit the plane's ID, altitude, and position. "Primary radar", aka real radar, can tell you an object's bearing from the transmitter, but can't usually tell you altitude, nor can it tell what the object is, though a skilled radar operator may be able to guess roughly how big a flying object is based on its "return" - the size of the blip on the scope, based on how much transmitted energy is reflected back from the object. (There are military radars that can tell altitude, but that requires multiple scanners which are expensive, which is why most airports don't have them.) If two planes are flying closely enough (and "closely enough" may be a couple of hundred feet), their returns on primary radar will merge (again, military radar tends to have a higher resolution, as they need to track things like missiles.).
Primary radar also has a much shorter range than secondary radar in most cases (again, exceptions for military radar installations, some of which have a range of hundreds of miles), which is why it's such a big deal that the transponder on Flight 370 was disabled - that made it essentially invisible as they were outside of the range of primary radar.
As far as satellite goes - again, satellite tracking of airliners is dependent on there being an active transponder. In the case of Flight 370, it appears that the data transmissions from the satellite transponder were disabled, but it was still transmitting - that's how we know it was still in the air after it "vanished" when the radar transponder was disabled. However, without the data stream, that's all we know - can't tell where it was.

Now, I don't buy the the theory, based on the information that has come out about an unidentified (no transponder) aircraft flying west across the Malay Peninsula about an hour after Flight 370 "vanished". But it's certainly more plausible than some of the other theories being bandied about.
Mar. 20th, 2014 01:32 pm (UTC)
Regardless, that's really interesting. Thank you.
Mar. 19th, 2014 02:17 am (UTC)
OH this makes me sad. Don Lemon used to be such a good reporter once. DANG.
Mar. 19th, 2014 01:35 pm (UTC)
Your icon makes my heart sing. I'm on Pinterest, and the frequency of these idiotic "Keep Calm" things is appalling. May I use it from time to time?

Edited at 2014-03-19 01:37 pm (UTC)
Mar. 20th, 2014 02:10 am (UTC)
I found it and edited from anguinea's icon. So it isn't really mine. I might be able to find the original creator.... I have the google-fu for it.
Mar. 19th, 2014 04:18 am (UTC)
Don't worry. Once He's finished talking to Jesus and Buddha, who were taking a vacation together, He'll put the plane right back where He found it.

But good Lord, what were they thinking of? Ratings are important in TV-land, but how do you _keep_ your ratings after airing something that is more often found on insanely late am radio?
Mar. 19th, 2014 12:44 pm (UTC)
They are probably trying to do the "give all sides equal time" balanced journalism that allows schools to teach the controversy in various subjects.

Given that it took the media several days to start reporting that maybe the plane was hi-jacked even after reporting that some of the passengers weren't the people they said they were, saying it was supernatural isn't that extreme. I notice that they don't say God took the plane but that maybe it was supernatural. And given what I've been hearing it is obviously beyond the understanding of many 'reporters'.
Mar. 19th, 2014 01:34 pm (UTC)
::rubbing soft spot on my forehead::

They didn't say God, but they sure implied it like heck.

God as hijacker? Elves? Alien hijackers? ::eyes desk::

Mar. 19th, 2014 02:05 pm (UTC)
They implied it OR they implied the Other One by whichever name they wish to call it.

Put some ice on that soft-spot, you don't want to get a nasty bruise.
Mar. 20th, 2014 01:29 am (UTC)
But Tammy, of course his god is the only god and those darn wacky Asians are just making shit up! Their deities are all woo and his is the one true way!

(Ugh. I didn't like writing that even sarcastically.)
Mar. 20th, 2014 07:27 pm (UTC)
Ugh. This is why I stick to the New York Times and NPR.
Mar. 21st, 2014 02:17 pm (UTC)
I just found out that you're coming to Denmark in march of 2015, and I'm so excited!

I hope I'll be able to go.
Mar. 21st, 2014 11:33 pm (UTC)
Aren't they a couple of weeks early for that announcement? The 1st isn't until the 1st...
Angela Goudman
Mar. 24th, 2014 03:38 pm (UTC)
God does not "create" evil. He permits it, because He has given man free will. Evil resulted from the fall of man in the very beginning. Consequently God doesn't "punish" people by allowing bad things to happen. Evil is the absence of what is good, and God cannot will the absence of Himself. That said, He CAN bring great good out of great evil. (The Catholic Church also teaches that it is not impossible for non-Catholics, or even non-Christians, to be saved. Those who, through their own ignorance and not because of active rejection, do not know the truth of the Good News can still be saved through a sincere desire to live righteously and do all that is necessary for salvation - in other words, a desire to cooperate with the free gift of grace.) A charitable response from Christians, and in fact, from all people is to either pray for those on the plane or, if you don't pray, to send them good thoughts and happy wishes and hope for the best.

Edited at 2014-03-24 03:40 pm (UTC)
Mar. 24th, 2014 05:17 pm (UTC)
You needn't tell us, but rather, CNN.
Angela Goudman
Mar. 24th, 2014 07:37 pm (UTC)
I agree - sorry if I sounded "preachy"; that wasn't the intention. I just wanted to point out that their argument has SERIOUS flaws - and that it isn't a very "Christian" viewpoint either, to be honest.

Edited at 2014-03-24 07:40 pm (UTC)
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