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Self defense from pervos in crowded spaces

Warning: Bad Words Used and Demonstrations of Fighting

Back in September a tiny woman with a huge heart was on the subway when a guy tried on her a variation of what guys used to try on me. That's when defense goddess Nicola Briggs gave a live demonstration of what to do when the perverted guy tried to rub his exposed penis against her.

Now she's back on Jezebel discussing other means of dealing with perverts. She addresses subways, but these will work on buses, hallways, and crowds. The yelling won't work at rock concerts, but the physical moves will.

I dealt with these guys in New York City parks. Unfortunately for me, they caught me when I was isolated, feeding squirrels and birds, so my yelling didn't do much good, though yell and curse I did. And because it was the 90s when a lot of this happened, I headed straight for the nearest phone. (Catching them would have gone better, I think, if I'd had a cell phone and could have gotten a picture to boot.)

You know something? You have every right to stand or walk along, thinking your thinks, listening your music, without some s**tpoke waving his willie at you. If he's gonna ruin your day, don't you think you should do your best to ruin his?


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Dec. 18th, 2010 12:28 am (UTC)
Your second great post of the day, Tammy. Thanks, and I'll pass them on.
Dec. 18th, 2010 09:04 pm (UTC)
From you, Kristin, this means A LOT! Muchas gracias!
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:35 am (UTC)

With the recent surge in cellphones with video cameras, a lot of these perverts are getting arrested because ladies catch them on video. Self defense is a good thing for everyone to know too, city dweller or townsfolk, and sex aside.
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:51 am (UTC)
thanks :)
Ever since I read POTS I've never been afraid to defend myself, and it's come in handy a few times. This is a another manifestation of the fact that it's ok to do so when necessary.
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Dec. 18th, 2010 04:15 am (UTC)
Hear, hear.
Dec. 18th, 2010 10:34 pm (UTC)
nobody should feel bad for doing nothing.

This is so important I'm doing a separate post on it, with thanks to you.
Dec. 18th, 2010 01:14 am (UTC)
As said in the movie Enough: "You have a divine animal right to protect your own life and the life of your offspring."

Do whatever is needed to survive, I say.
Dec. 18th, 2010 01:47 am (UTC)
I really don't understand why he was wearing a condom. Was he thinking that the woman would see his mighty wang and be so impressed that she'd lose all control and just hop right on?

Not that it works well for a woman alone, but I can say that quite a few strippers have worked out one of the most effective measures I've seen on that: shout "OhmyGAWD it comes in fun size!" and then quickly beckon the other girls over, who will add comments like "Aw lookit the widdle thing, it looks so scared!" and my personal favorite, "So what does he want to be when he grows up?"
Dec. 18th, 2010 03:52 am (UTC)
LOL! Now that I think of it, doing that might make him angry though.. :\
Dec. 18th, 2010 04:11 am (UTC)
That's why I say it doesn't work well for a woman alone. But for the situation linked above, I have no doubt that the onlookers would have enjoyed adding their own insults. The video on the comments had me giggling hard enough to wake up the dogs.
Dec. 18th, 2010 04:27 am (UTC)
Oh right. I read it differently, sorry! :x
Dec. 18th, 2010 02:07 pm (UTC)
We did a variation of this when we had a "window Dancer" at my 24 hour coffee shop.
He never did come INTO the store, just pranced around outside out plate glass windows. :X

We gathered everyone in the store, went to the window, pointed, laughed and held our fingers about a centimetre apart (1/2 inch for the imperialists).
We never saw him again after that. :D

Tammy, this is a good post, and you should feel good! ;)

Thankfully at 5'9" and having my grandfather's football player build, (I have to buy men's shirts!) the pervs leave me, and whomever I'm with, alone. :)
Dec. 18th, 2010 08:59 am (UTC)
Some of the guys who do it want women to comment and make fun of it, because it gets them off. A lot of guys who expose themselves at strip clubs know this.

Dec. 18th, 2010 09:01 am (UTC)
do this, not know this. Sorry.

And the condom thing is because it's considered a sign of immaturity for subway wankers to come on themselves. Here's more information than you'll ever want.
Dec. 31st, 2010 05:48 pm (UTC)
quite a few strippers have worked out one of the most effective measures I've seen on that:

Ohmigawd, I'd just as soon turn into a pile of snot and dribble away then and there rather than have a group of strippers commenting on my equipage. Not only would the vocabulary be something with which to strip paint, but the delivery would be ... excruciating.
Dec. 18th, 2010 02:58 am (UTC)
Love it!
Dec. 18th, 2010 04:13 am (UTC)
I love her so much. <3
Dec. 18th, 2010 03:54 pm (UTC)
I agree - where i live this kind of public harrassment is less common but teenage boys are not. After my "boyfriend" attempted (key word) to rape me - i took self defense classes so nobody could ever do that to me again. *spits on floor to show opinion*
Dec. 20th, 2010 07:48 am (UTC)
This is a great reply to a great post. Rape comes in all shapes and sizes, and it's not always black and white. I was attacked by a boy I was close friends with in college but from his perspective he was just showin' the love and showing me how he felt, and when I said no he thought he could change my mind by pressing on.

It's not always black and white. But I wish I knew self defense so I could kick his ass.
Dec. 31st, 2010 05:49 pm (UTC)
*spits on floor to show opinion*

Beka and Tunstall join you.
Dec. 18th, 2010 10:45 pm (UTC)
regarding self defense and heroism
User tammy212 referenced to your post from regarding self defense and heroism saying: [...] cross-posted from my fan journal, where 's post can be found In my post on Self defense from pervos [...]
Dec. 19th, 2010 03:43 pm (UTC)
Highly recommend checking out Hollaback, a non-profit that aims to stop street harassment. http://www.ihollaback.org/
Dec. 31st, 2010 05:50 pm (UTC)
Highly recommend checking out Hollaback

I have--they're wonderful. If I'd known of them when I lived in NYC, believe me, I'd have chipped in!
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